Romans 11 Podcast – All Israel Will Be Saved

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Welcome to Grace Coach, my name is Kevin Smith.
I’ve got my best friend, Mike Stone, with me today.
Who are you?
I’m doing great, beautiful, beautiful, sunny day in Chicago,
out and about to get my car worked on and doing some
molecular work and stuff, but ready to jump into
Romans chapter 11.
What about you?
Yeah, we’ve come a long way.
We got through 10 chapters and Paul’s amazing the way he writes.
And you know, I wish we could talk about every chapter, every
podcast, but you know, we can’t do that.
Which is why I go back and listen to the podcast over and over again.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I do that also.
But yeah, as we jump into Romans chapter 11, I would like to
as just a overarching kind of a mind setting,
a couple of verses, the last three verses in Romans chapter 11,
how we should understand it.
Let me read it.
Verse 34 through 36.
For who can know the Lord’s thoughts?
Who knows enough to give him advice?
And who has given him so much that he needs to pay it back?
For everything comes from him and exists by his power and is
intended for his glory.
All glory to him forever.
Amen.
As I read through this chapter, there are some things that were a little
contradictory that you could read it in one verse says one thing in
another verse says another things and you could almost infer
there’s a contradiction or it just doesn’t make sense.
But as I read this, it really was like, all right,
this is, it’s all about God’s will and us submitting to
however this pans out.
I mean, you and I can sit here and do this podcast and we can say,
well, I think it means this and I think it means this and the bottom
mind is as the world pans out and as we get into the end times,
things are going to get so crazy and we’re not going to,
things may happen where we, our head turns around says,
I’d never in a million years saw that coming, but it’s in the Bible
and it’s what God says and it’s how God wants it to be.
So anyway, let’s jump in there.
Yeah.
And really, you know, what you’re talking about is what’s going on
today with the craziness in the world and the anti-Semitism
that comes back, you know, since the 1940s,
nobody ever thought that that this would come back and haunt
the Jews and the anti-Israel stance by so many people.
We’re a wide and yet God is saying and said and, you know,
just in Genesis 15, 18 that the Lord made a covenant with Abram
who became Abraham and he says to your descendants,
the Jews, I give this land from the wadi of Egypt to the great river,
the Euphrates.
And he draws the boundaries and yet here are some people saying to
the river to the sea, it’s our land and God is saying,
no, I gave it to the Jewish people.
It’s all through the Old Testament.
So it is very clear.
Yeah, it is very clear and it’s amazing.
If you look at the boundaries that are in the Old Testament
that God gave them, it’s much bigger than what the nation of Israel
is today.
I mean, it is huge.
And so, like I said, who knows how that’s going to all pan out?
And who knows the mind of the Lord?
So I want to read first before we get into chapter 11 of Romans 10,
1 to 3 in a review that brothers and sisters,
my heart’s desire and prayer to God is for the Israelites
is that they may be saved.
Paul’s praying for his own Jewish brothers and sisters.
But I can testify about them that they are zealous for God.
But their zeal is not based on knowledge,
the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
It’s not based on Jesus Christ.
It’s based on self-righteousness that comes by the works of the law.
And it says just that in verse 3,
since they did not know the righteousness of God.
That’s the imputed righteousness that’s given to every born again Christian,
Jew or Gentile who comes to Christ,
they did not know about that and sought to establish their own
and they did not submit to God’s imputed righteousness.
Wow, that is just the way it was back then.
And it’s the way it is for many people today or stuck in religion and legalism
who are trying to work their way to get God to love them and accept them
and to be right with God versus just accepting God’s imputed righteousness
that Romans 1 says comes by faith and faith.
Yes, I was just going to say Abraham believed God by faith
and he was a credited righteousness.
And there was other people in the Old Testament that did that.
But it all points to Jesus Christ.
It’s all points to the work of Christ works frontwards and backwards.
Since the Jews rejected Jesus in the next 28, 28,
it says that I am now going to the Gentiles because they will listen.
The Jews didn’t want to hear about Jesus.
The Gentiles are willing to.
And that’s where Romans 111 comes in.
I ask then, did God reject his people because he went to the Gentiles?
No, it says by no means.
I’m an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham from the tribe of Benjamin.
God did not reject his people for whom he for new.
Don’t you know what the scripture says in the passage about Elijah?
How we appeal to God against Israel?
Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your alters.
And I’m the only one left and they’re trying to kill me.
And what was God’s answer to him?
I have reserved for myself 7,000 who have not bought the knee to bail.
So too at the present time, there’s a remnant chosen by grace.
And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works.
If it were, grace wouldn’t no longer be grace.
So they’re polar opposites.
Yes.
Can’t come to Christ by the grace of God and then get back under the works of the law.
You can, but you’ll be miserable.
You miserable, depressed, angry, judgmental.
The love of God will not be flowing through you.
No.
So he says he’s reserved a remnant chosen by grace.
So I’m not sure if that’s a remnant of Jews who were chosen by grace or just a remnant of people who are chosen by grace.
But certainly it cannot be based on works.
If it were, grace wouldn’t no longer be grace.
It’s one or the other.
One of my favorite verses, second Thessalonians 2,13 says that God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and belief in the truth.
So he chose that.
He didn’t chose that you come to Christ by the works of the law.
He chose that you come to Christ by the sanctifying work of the Spirit and belief and faith in the truth.
Yes, it’s all about, let’s say the other thing about this chapter where it says,
like even this verse you just read in his undeserved kindness in choosing them.
And so that, that may contradict, like I say, and there’s some seemingly contradictions in here.
But it’s like, like, well, okay, here’s even a better one where it says he put them all under disobedient.
And I know I’m jumping around here a little bit, this little further in the chapter where it says in verse 32,
“For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.”
So the question I have to ask, and this is kind of covers all these contradictions in this chapter or seemingly contradictions because we know God’s plan.
There is no contradictions.
And us, we may be confused about it, but in God’s mind, it’s all squared away.
So in this verse, 11 verse 32, “For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so that everyone have mercy on everyone.”
So did God imprison everyone under disobedience or did Adam’s sin imprison everyone under disobedience?
And the word of God would say, as a result of Adam’s sin, sin covered all of people.
And that’s how you can understand this and many of these other things.
It’s like, our actions, like God chose people.
He chose people, but you still have to believe.
Okay, everything is based on belief and faith.
It’s not God going to randomly choose Joe Blow down the street and just pluck him out and say, “Okay, he’s in.”
No, Joe Blow down the street still has to understand the gospel and believe by faith.
That’s right.
That’s what I’m saying is it’s like, you know, you look at all these different things of like, you know, “Oh my gosh, God’s choosing.”
Well, he’s choosing, but there’s a way that you have to go for God to choose you.
And the big thing that he chose is just the verse I read, he chose you to be saved.
Yes.
This way through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and belief and the truth in Jesus.
It’s faith in Christ.
This is the way whoever believes in their heart that Jesus rose from the dead, you will be saved.
God chose it.
He chose that way.
It’s up to everyone, Jew and Gentile, every person to come to that conclusion.
Let me read seven to, it’s like ten.
What then?
What the people of Israel so sought so earnestly, that is the righteousness of God, they did not obtain.
He elect among them did the Gentiles, but the others were hardened, the Jews.
Now, why were they hardened because they were doing all the work?
Just think you’re out there on your job, you’re doing all the work and this other fella or whoever might be is doing nothing
and he’s getting paid the same wage, your heart’s going to be hardened towards him.
Yes.
So if we just take that example, that is what’s going on here.
That is what hardened the Jews heart is that he went to a people who did not seek him, that did not follow the law.
He went to a whole nother nation and they thought, hey, we’re the chosen ones.
What are you going to them for?
Just like in Hosea, I will go to a people who are not my people.
It’s all part of his plan.
So in Aida says God gave them a spirit of stupor, now he’s talking about the Jews.
Eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear it to this very day.
And David says, may their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and retribution for them.
May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see and their backs be bent forever.
And so he’s referring to Israel.
Yes.
This is what is going to happen when I go to the Gentiles and this is God talking when I’m going to go to those Gentiles.
This is really going to harden these Jewish people’s hearts.
Yes.
And of all the Old Testament verses Paul could have chosen.
This verse he chose from David in the Psalms, Psalm 69.
Doesn’t it paint a picture of Israel in the real deal of who they were?
Think about imagine yourself in the context of what is going on here.
Israel was so proud.
They thought their table was boundable.
They had the whole world underneath their grasp.
They had God. They were God’s chosen people.
So of course they felt like their whole table was boundable to them.
But it was a snare.
That boundable table, that spiritual kind of like exercise they were doing, it was a snare to them.
Paul just nails them with this thing.
And it is basically in that next verse is let their blessings cause them to stumble.
There’s like we read in the verse of last verse in chapter 9 where it says they stumbled over Christ.
The stone that they laid in Zion, that’s what they stumbled over.
Paul again, you know, like an awesome trial lawyer brings in the evidence that just nails at home.
I want to take 11, take 11 and 12.
Sure.
The God’s people stumble and fall beyond recovery.
Of course not.
They were disobedient so God made salvation available to the Gentiles.
But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves.
Now if the Gentiles were enriched because the people of Israel turned down God’s offer of salvation,
think how much greater a blessing the world would share when they finally accepted.
Yeah.
And then ultimately become that’ll happen in the after the tribulation when God turns to Israel and the last Gentile has come in.
Yes.
But here it’s you know, back to Romans 10, 19 it says, I will make you envious talking to the Jews again to those who are not a nation, the Gentiles.
And I will make you angry by a nation who has no understanding the Gentiles.
Yes.
Yeah. So it’s just a jealousy anger and they are hardened to Jesus Christ.
But there will be a day when God does turn back to them.
And there’s a remnant.
Certainly I’m one of them who has come to Christ.
A Jew, I was Bar Mitzvahd, I grew up with two Jewish parents and I came to Christ out of great need.
I knew I was a mess.
I didn’t know where to turn and I know you have the same kind of story.
But I was at the end of my rope.
And there was nowhere to turn.
And then someone offered me to go to a church.
I’m like, oh absolutely.
Love to.
Yes.
I guess I’m a help there.
Just a comment on this last couple of verses and verses 11 through 12.
Yeah.
Basically it’s God’s plan.
Just when you sit back and think about how cool this is,
that everything’s happening today is no surprise to God.
This was all in his plan.
He planned for the Jews to be hardened.
He planned, even it says, at the appointed time, the Gentile, I’m opening up to the Gentile.
At the appointed time, I’m going to sacrifice my son.
All of this stuff is planned out according to,
and it’s mind blowing when you do the research and you see all these things like,
oh my, the Jews were like meticulous,
not only just in the recording of their scriptures,
you could go on, you know, like they did not miss a jot or a title in transcribing these scriptures.
And so you can see the care they took in recording the details of God’s plan.
And we are the beneficiaries of it today.
I’m going to keep reading 13.
I am talking to you Gentiles.
And as much as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry in the hope that I may somehow or rouse my own people.
Because they’re jealous of the gospel of Jesus,
of being made right with God by faith and faith alone.
That would make anyone jealous who’s working their tail off.
Amen.
And to save some of them, verse 15,
for if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world talking about the Jews,
what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
That’s the spiritual dead.
If the part of the doe offered as first fruits is holy,
then the whole batch is holy.
If the root is holy, so are the branches.
Some of the branches have been broken off and you Gentiles through a wild olive shoot have been grafted in among the others.
And now share in the nourishing set from the olive root.
Do not consider yourself to be superior to those other Jewish branches.
And I’m just adding that in there.
It just says branches but referring to Jewish people.
If you do consider this, you Gentiles do not support the root but the root supports you.
You will say then branches were broken off.
So I could be grafted in, granted, but they were broken off because of unbelief referring to the Jews.
Amen.
Gentiles stand by faith.
They’ll be arrogant but tremble for God did not spare the natural branches.
Right? The Jews.
Yeah.
He went to first but they rejected him so he went to the Gentiles.
He will not spare you either.
Consider therefore the kindness and the sternness of God.
Sternness to those who fell but kindness to you provided that you continue in his kindness.
Otherwise you will also be cut off just like the Jews.
But he’s really never cut them off completely.
He just went to the Gentiles because the Jews wouldn’t listen.
And if they do not persist in unbelief they will be grafted in.
For God is able to graft them in again.
After all if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature and contrary to nature,
we’re grafted into a cultivated olive tree.
How much more readily will these natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree referring to Jews and Jewish believers?
Wow.
Yes.
Well again this is a simple analogy of what is recorded in other books of the Bible of God being the vine dresser.
And in this case right here it refers to the Jews being the olive tree and the Gentiles being the ones that are grafted in.
But the thing that we can rest in is that God is the vine dresser.
God is the one grafting in and cutting out as a good vine dresser does.
He sees what needs to happen and he does it.
So it’s a beautiful, beautiful picture of just God’s love.
Like in this verse right here what talks about in verse 22, trusting in his kindness.
That’s just another way to say trusting in the gospel.
The gospel is God’s kindness. The gospel is what just to draw everybody to them himself.
You know this good news that we preach as much as we can and it’s really the essence of what the Bible is that God has been kind to the whole world.
Jew and Gentile like that means to everybody to just receive this gift.
And that kindness is he’s taken away all of our sins, not some of them, not the ones we did yesterday,
but the ones we’re going to do tomorrow and thinking about doing today.
It’s like all of them. That’s hard to believe. It’s too kind. But that’s just kindness.
It’s too kind. It’s too kind. It’s all or nothing deal. It’s all nothing preposition.
And then he rose from the dead and that anyone who believes in him shall not perish spiritually,
but have eternal life, eternal forever. That’s pretty kind too.
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Why don’t you read it?
I’m about to 34. Take us. Wow. We’re going to get rid of it. We’re going to get done with this whole chapter today.
Can you believe it? I can’t believe it. I 25. I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters,
so that you will not feel proud about yourselves.
Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes Christ.
You mentioned that all the time when the fullness of the God when Gentiles comes in verse 26.
And so all Israel will be saved. Okay. That that to me is mind blowing right there.
All right. As the scripture says, the one who rescues will come from Jerusalem and he will turn Israel away from unguiling us.
And this is my covenant with them that I will take away their sins.
Many other people of Israel now enemies of the good news and this benefits you Gentiles yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, I skin Jacob for God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.
Once you Gentiles will rebels against God, but when the people of Israel rebelled against him, God was merciful to you instead.
Now they are the rebels in God’s mercy is come to you so that they too will share in God’s mercy.
Verse 32. For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.
Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge, how impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways.
For who can know the thoughts of the Lord, who knows enough to give him advice and who has given him so much that he needs to pay it back?
Verse 36. For everything comes from him and exists by his power and is attended for his glory, all glory to him forever a man.
Praise God. Nothing more to say.
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