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Romans 2:17-29 Podcast Commentary: Becoming a True Jew
In our Romans 2:17-29 podcast and commentary, we explore a critical passage that challenges traditional views of identity, righteousness, and the law. The phrase “No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God” (Romans 2:29) shifts the focus from external religious markers to the true inward transformation that comes through the Spirit. This passage provides deep insights into what it means to belong to God’s people and live according to His will.
Exploring Romans
In Romans 2:25, Paul argues, “Circumcision has value if you obey the law, but if you break the law, it’s as if you have not been circumcised.” Here, Paul emphasizes that physical rituals, such as circumcision, are meaningless without obedience to God’s law. The outward sign of circumcision is of no spiritual benefit if a person lives in rebellion against God’s commands. This idea confronts the assumption that ritual observances could guarantee righteousness. Paul makes it clear that obedience to God’s law—living according to His will—is what truly matters.
Key Themes
Key themes in this passage include the danger of boasting in the law while failing to live by it, and the understanding that true Jewish identity is not based on outward appearances but on the heart’s transformation by the Holy Spirit. Paul challenges his Jewish audience, who prided themselves on their adherence to the law and their status as God’s chosen people, to see that real righteousness is not about external rites but about internal obedience and faith.
Romans 2:17-29: Commentary Insights
Engaging with Romans 2:17-29 through study guides, sermons, and commentaries helps believers understand how this passage challenges both Jewish and Gentile readers. It emphasizes that external rituals, whether circumcision or other religious practices, are not enough if they are not backed by genuine faith and obedience. This section encourages Christians to evaluate their lives not by their religious outward acts but by their hearts and devotion to God’s will, seeking true righteousness that comes through the Spirit.
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Transcript of Romans 2:17-29 Podcast
Want to discover your freedom in Christ? Then listen in as Mike Stone and Kevin (0:07) Smith talk about it, today on Grace Coach. Today we're talking about Romans (0:14) chapter 2 through the end of the chapter. We're gonna be talking about the Jew is (0:22) condemned by the law.
Mike, you want to do a little recap of us, where we've been in (0:30) this journey through Romans? Yeah, I sure will. You know, I'd like to say first (0:35) Kevin, we are approaching 40,000 downloads of our podcast. Holy smokes! (0:43) It's just amazing and I just love seeing the activity.
Oh my gosh, 40,000. Now, I (0:53) never would have thought 40,000 people would have listened to our podcast. Yeah, those are unique downloads, so it's very cool.
(1:00) Back up a little bit and just do a little recap of what Paul is trying to (1:05) explain here in the book of Romans to mostly Gentiles, but also Jews, and we see (1:11) that in Romans 1, 16 and 17, he says he's not ashamed of the gospel because it is (1:19) the power of God that brings salvation for everyone who believes, first for the (1:24) Jew and then the Gentile. That's what he means for all who believe, all Jews and (1:29) all Gentiles who believe. For in the gospel, a righteousness from God is (1:35) revealed, that's imputed righteousness, not self-righteousness, and it says it's a (1:40) righteousness that comes by faith from first to last, and it says the righteous (1:45) will live by faith.
But the problem here in where Paul is writing in (1:52) the book of Romans is that there are Jews and Gentiles who do not believe in (1:56) Jesus, and they're suppressing the truth. So, he's talking to both of them. First, he (2:04) talks to the Gentile, then he talks to the Jews, and in chapter Romans 1, 18, to the (2:11) Gentile, he says that the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all (2:17) the godliness and wickedness of people who suppress the truth by their (2:22) wickedness.
They're suppressing their truth about Jesus, which so many do today (2:28) who don't believe. And then in chapter 2, verse 5, to the Jew, he says, because of (2:37) your stubbornness and unrepentant heart towards Jesus, again, you are storing up (2:44) wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath when his righteous judgment (2:50) will be revealed. So, both the Gentile and the Jew are unrepentant.
They're (2:56) suppressing the truth. And so, Paul goes on to say, well, this is how to escape the (3:04) judgment of God. He says in Romans 2, 7, that to those who persist in doing good, (3:12) seek glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But for those who (3:18) are self-seeking, who reject the truth and follow evil, there'll be wrath and anger. (3:25) This is sometimes a confusing verse. We talked about it last time, about what is (3:30) doing good.
I want to read John 5, 29, which really shows what that really means. (3:39) And it says, those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life, and (3:45) those who continue in evil will rise to experience judgments. Doing good in the (3:53) new covenant is about believing in Jesus.
That's why, again, Paul is writing this, (3:58) because he wants to help the Jew and the Gentile come to faith in Christ. So, the (4:05) Gentiles are without excuse. The Jews are without excuse.
And it says, finally, in (4:12) Romans 3, there is no one righteous, Jew or Gentile, who are not saved, not even one. (4:20) There is no one who understands. There's no one who seeks God, and that all have (4:25) sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
So, he really just is laying it out (4:31) here in Romans 1, 2, and 3, trying to help. You know, he's trying to help the (4:38) unbelieving Jew and the unbelieving Gentile come to faith in Christ. (4:45) I mean, it's amazing that Paul is basically leveling the field.
You know, (4:54) you mentioned it in Romans 3, you know, there's none righteous, no, not one. To (5:00) these law-abiding Jews, that was the ultimate slap in the face. Paul was (5:07) ushering in a totally new way to relate to God, something completely foreign to (5:13) what they lived their whole lives, and it was what we are living under right now.
(5:22) We're living under a faith-based relationship for all those who believe (5:29) and trust by faith in Christ. That's what Paul was telling them 2,000 years ago (5:37) and we're still telling people that today, and praise God for all the other (5:42) people in the world that are doing that. Let me read a little bit of Romans 2, 17 (5:49) through 24, and we'll kind of get into really what the Scripture is talking (5:54) about.
We always like to read it first. All right, Romans chapter 2, verse 17 (6:02) through 24. But if you bear the name Jew and rely upon the law and boast in God (6:11) and know his will and approve the things that are essential being instructed out (6:17) of the law and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind and (6:23) the light to those who are in darkness, a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of (6:28) the immature, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth, (6:35) you therefore who teach another do not teach yourself.
You who preach that one (6:44) shall not steal, do you steal? You who say that one should not commit adultery, do (6:53) you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the (7:03) law through your breaking the law, do you dishonor God? For the name of God is (7:11) blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you, just as it is written. So we'll stop (7:19) there. The end of verse 24.
Yeah, it's basically really in the unbelieving (7:27) Jews face here, calling them a hypocrite. Well, you know, he goes through the whole (7:33) laundry list of things and he asks these rhetorical questions. And a rhetorical (7:41) question, most people know, is a question you don't need the answer (7:46) because it's obvious.
You know, do you steal? Well, of course you steal. You've (7:51) been robbing the temples. Do you lie? It's ridiculous.
He's just like, you're a sham. (8:00) He's telling these people that they're a sham, basically. You know, and he also (8:07) says in verse 22, you who say that people should not commit adultery, do you (8:11) commit adultery? And if you remember in Matthew, I think it's Matthew 5 in the (8:18) Beatitudes, where he says, have you committed adultery? Well, they said no.
(8:24) Well, have you looked at a woman with lust in your eyes? You got me. So, yes, (8:31) because he's getting underneath the skin where the Jews were saying, we didn't (8:36) adultery, but Jesus says, you have the spirit of adultery in your mind and in your thought (8:42) by just looking at a woman with lust in your eyes. And, you know, we all know what that means, (8:49) right? Just because we're not doing something doesn't mean that we're not thinking it.
(8:53) Jesus is just in the Jews' face, as Paul is, you know, by breaking the law of Moses, (9:00) which they were doing, they were giving God a bad name among the Gentiles. (9:07) They saw the Jewish people breaking their own law while looking down on others (9:14) and judging them, others, the Gentiles. And the Gentiles' response was that they were (9:22) blaspheming God about, you know, about Israel's God, about their Jewish God.
(9:28) Yeah, yeah, the Gentiles were blaspheming God because of their, of what the Jews were doing. (9:34) Exactly. (9:36) They weren't fooling anybody, basically, is what Paul is saying.
(9:39) That's right. (9:40) You think you're fooling people. You walk around with your robes and your phylacteries and all this (9:44) and this, and you say your long prayers on the street corner.
You're not fooling anybody. (9:52) Yeah, because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And it's not just that (9:59) we have committed sins.
It's, the problem is that we're born into this world spiritually dead (10:07) and separated from God, all of us, both Jews and Gentiles. And that's the problem. There is (10:14) no one righteous, it's because we're all born unrighteous.
And Paul here is trying to help (10:23) both the Jew and the Gentile come to understand (10:27) there is a way, there is a way to Jesus and it's not by following the law. (10:32) And he wants to help them both avoid the wrath of God that is to come. (10:38) Absolutely.
We talk about this a lot, but it's, it is so comforting to know that we're not under (10:47) the law and that, you know, the 10 commandments are part of the law, but we, we can't, (10:57) we can't live up to the 10 commandments. And once you do, you can't just say, (11:04) oh, I want to do, choose whichever one you want. Cherry pick.
(11:10) Yeah. Cherry pick. You can't just say, oh, I want to try and do this and not that.
(11:15) You've got to do all of it or none of it. And if you try to do it all and you've, (11:20) you mess up in one point, as James says, you're guilty of all. (11:25) That is right.
It's a, it's a zero sum game. This relationship with God, he has set it up (11:33) for each person to believe on themselves by faith in Jesus Christ. And that is the only way.
(11:44) Listen to what Matthew says in 23, 13 to 15. He says to the Pharisees, (11:51) woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You shut the door of the kingdom (11:57) of heaven in people's faces.
You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are (12:04) trying to. Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites. He says that twice (12:12) in two verses.
You travel over land and sea to win a single convert. And when you have succeeded, (12:19) you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. Child of hell.
(12:29) Twice as much a child of hell. That is no bueno. Yeah.
So I'm going to read the rest of Romans (12:37) two here. Romans 2, 25 to 27 says that circumcision is value if you observe the law. (12:45) But if you break the law, you have become as though you have not been circumcised.
(12:51) So then if those who are not circumcised, that's the Gentiles, keep the law's requirements, (12:57) will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? The one who is not circumcised (13:03) physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you. He's talking about the Gentiles. (13:09) Even though you have the written code and circumcisions are a law breaker.
(13:17) So he's just continuing to pound the Jewish hypocrisy talking about circumcision. (13:26) A very delicate matter, I might add. Very, very delicate.
You don't want to (13:32) slip with a wrist on that thing. You know, according to the Jewish law, (13:38) circumcision is the physical representation of the covenant between God and Abraham in the Old (13:45) Testament and was required for the inclusion of males into the Jewish faith. And so I went (13:56) through that.
I'm from a Jewish family. On the eighth day, I don't remember it, thank goodness, (14:04) but there was a ceremony and a rabbi came by our home. I went through that process, but (14:12) the purpose of it back then and even today was to say, hey, this is how you're included in the faith.
(14:20) It's no different than baptism in many religions today that they say you must be baptized (14:29) if you're going to be saved and be in the faith. They say that incorrectly? (14:38) Well, they're referring to water baptism, but if you want to be included in the faith, (14:44) there's a spiritual baptism that must happen, and that's when you put your faith in Jesus, (14:51) then you are baptized by the Spirit at that moment. It's not with water.
(14:58) It's with just your faith in Jesus that you are baptized into Jesus. (15:05) You know, this is a little bit of a rabbit trail, but, ma'am, yesterday after work, (15:13) we're sitting out in the parking lot, and this guy came to our job. He hasn't been there a long time, (15:21) so he was talking about getting his son baptized as a infant, and kind of a long story.
He was (15:30) Catholic, and he was divorced, and the Catholic church wouldn't let him get baptized because he (15:37) was divorced. I mean, my heart was just breaking for this guy in just the whole situation that he (15:46) was in. He was talking to this other guy who's a churchgoer, and he's very influential in his (15:54) church.
Long story short, the other guy got him the ability to get his kid baptized at his church. (16:04) I forgot exactly what I said, but it's something like you don't have to get your kid baptized or (16:11) something, meaning that you get baptized after you become a Christian as a sign of what you've done (16:20) as a celebration. But I didn't want to really belabor the point and just rain on their parade.
(16:29) They were real happy and everything else like that. But it's just sad what the world is doing (16:35) with baptism, and backwards it is. Right.
It's just like the Jewish faith, where they think that (16:43) physical circumcision is the day when you're entered into the Jewish faith. Many religions (16:51) will say that once a baby is baptized with water, they are included in the faith. They are basically (17:00) saved, and there's nothing worse than thinking that is true, because it's not true, and you (17:08) might miss eternal life if you believe that.
Let's read the next two verses that really kind (17:16) of tie this thing together. Yeah. For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision (17:24) that which is outward in the flesh, but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that (17:34) which is of the heart by the Spirit, not by the letter, and his praise is not from men, but from (17:41) God.
So basically, I know this is the NIV. I was reading it in an ESV, and it says it a little (17:51) different, but it's basically like a Gentile could be a Jew inwardly if they're circumcised by the (18:00) heart. Basically, if your heart is circumcised, not your private parts, your heart, that is the key (18:15) element in this relationship with God.
If your heart is circumcised, you can become a Jew. (18:23) You know, I don't want to elaborate too much on what that means, what a Gentile becoming a Jew, (18:29) but the point is that your heart's been circumcised by faith, by the Spirit. (18:36) It's a lot like this, Kevin, to me.
It's like when you want your dog to do something, (18:44) you want him to go get the ball, and you go point to the dog to go get his ball, (18:51) and he comes, and he starts sniffing your finger. Yeah. Right, and that to me is the same thing (18:58) that we're looking at physical pictures.
In the Old Testament, there's all these physical pictures (19:06) of spiritual truths. Circumcision in the Old Covenant is just a physical picture of the (19:13) circumcision, like you're referring to, of our heart. The ark where Noah and his family were (19:20) saved was just a physical picture of the salvation that we receive in Jesus Christ.
(19:27) Yes, so many illustrations. So many. Foreshadowing.
There were shadows of things to come, (19:35) but Hebrews 10 says not the reality themselves. They were just shadows, but people are just (19:41) sniffing the shadows. Yeah.
What about Adam and Eve, the first sin they did? God covered their (19:49) sin with the sacrifice. He sacrificed an animal and gave them a covering. Just a picture of Jesus (19:58) Christ taking away our sins one time on the cross.
It's just on and on and on. All these (20:04) baptisms, water baptisms, just a physical picture of an inward truth. That's what it's all about.
(20:12) It's all pointing. God is pointing towards Jesus, and people are just sniffing (20:20) God's finger and not looking to where he's pointing. (20:25) You know, John 3, 5 to 8, I want to read.
Jesus answered, very truly, I tell you, (20:33) no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the spirit. (20:39) Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at (20:45) me saying you must be born again.
And so he's using the physical picture of birth, (20:52) as we pass through our mother's womb, to the spiritual birth of being born again. (21:02) Always, God is using physical pictures to explain spiritual truths, (21:07) and we got to let go of that if we're going to understand the love of God and Jesus Christ. (21:14) I always talk about The Chosen on our podcast a lot, but that was a powerful movie, (21:22) part of The Chosen.
When Jesus met Nicodemus, and he tried to explain that aspect to him, (21:30) and he basically, Nicodemus knelt down and kissed Jesus's ring. He could really see that he was (21:40) talking to somebody who understood the real deal and was speaking truth to him. Oh my gosh, I can't (21:51) wait till season three comes out.
Yeah, me too. You know, it's the spirit of God, Kevin, living (21:57) inside of us. He leads us into truth.
He reveals the truth of the Word of God to us, so that we (22:05) would understand what God has freely given us. And so I just pray that anyone listening today, (22:13) if you're not sure if you're saved or not, right now, pray and ask the Lord to come live inside (22:20) of you, and he will be your Lord and Savior. All your sins have been forgiven.
Once he's living in (22:28) you, he'll never leave you. It's a done deal. If you're only 98% sure, I would pray that prayer (22:36) to be a 100% sure.
And if you do pray that prayer to ask Christ to come in your life, (22:42) you will be saved, and you will see the Lord the day of not only the rapture, but when the (22:50) new millennial kingdom comes back to earth, we'll be with the Lord forever. (22:57) Amen. That makes me think of 1 John 5, 13, where it says, for those who have believed, (23:06) they will know that they have eternal life.
They won't think it. They won't feel it. They won't (23:12) want it.
If you believe, you will know you have eternal life. And I think that's the spirit (23:23) in abiding in your heart. I mean, you know there is a change.
You know something's different (23:32) when you believe. Well, good podcast, Kevin. Can't wait to get into Romans chapter 3.